Ingraham tells Christie, "I ga be right here next time around!"

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ingraham-hubert<<< Prime Minister Rt. Hon. Hubert Ingraham.

Part One of Ingraham’s Contribution.

Part Two of Ingraham’s Contribution.

Part Three of Ingraham’s Contribution.

Our Prime Minister Rt. Hon. Hubert Ingraham proved today, why he was elected to be Prime Minister of The Bahamas. He came out swinging as he defended his government’s record, looking back into the years when Christie was in power. And boy, he sure painted a scary picture.

He landed a GUILTY verdict on the PLP for being the first to organized  STOP, Cancel and REVIEW policy after the 2002 elections. He defended charges against his government and noted that not one development project signed by his government had stalled.

He reminded the parliament how Christie, with the whole Cabinet present, preempted the newscast of ZNS to announce that BahMar project as a done deal. Yet he asked, why did the deal not go through?

He questioned why was not a single school built in the country in 5 years by the Christie administration? And highlighted the poor condition scores of dilapidated government buildings left in by PLP in 2007. Ingraham asked, what did the PLP do with all the government money they burrowed to fix and do these things during their term in office?

“You will never here them [PLP] accept responsible for anything,” Ingraham said, adding that the PLP were bold to convince the people of the Bahamas that they were new, and after 5 years of ineffective governance, the people of the Bahamas realize they were much worse than the old PLP.

The Prime Minister confirmed that a substantial number of government vehicles will be sold, questioning, “Why are so many vehicles on the streets during the weekend?” Ingraham also noted that he is also astounded at the high overtime paid to some in the government, and promised that that it will soon change.

Ingraham then turned to Christie once again said that he [Christie] cannot speak for the poor, “You are not one of us!” he [Ingraham] cried repeatedly in the parliament. “There are some people who don’t know when to go! I know when to go, but I ga be right here next time around.”

Ingraham once again proved what a powerful debater he is. Again, today in the House, he proved how convincing his voice can be.

  • Interesting development in the “nurses” saga. Appears that the contract negotiated under the PLP was flawed and so could not be ratified. Even though the Union and the Ministry were sent letters to that effect both in 06 and Feb. 07, neither entity bothered toanswered the concerns about the legalities that were contravened. So the contract that the nurses staged their “sick-out” on never existed because it was never ratified. As Gramma was fond of saying,”Now ain’t that a fine kettle of fish?”

  • Ronica7: I knew exactly what you meant. Just pulling your leg! Oppositions serve a useful purpose. I just wish, no matter which party is in opposition, that they would think of the good of the country and its people first and foremost. I really don’t care who runs the country as long as they are competent, honest,knowledgable, straightforward and have my and others’ best interest at heart.

  • No what i am saying is there may not be any fnm’s in the house. But you still need and opposition. You know i am just being facetious.lol!

  • Ronica7: “next time around the plp will be pickng plp mp’s to be opposition members!” It would appear from your statement that you indeed agree with me that the PLP will remain in the position of Opposition in the next election.

  • Joe blow, you need to come out of coral harbour. I live in coral harbour and most of my neighbors are fnm, and they cussing Mr. Ingraham, over the national debt, and over this same unemployment benefit.

    If you thinks it’s propaganda, thats your choice. But i can assure you those two cut skin he got in 2002, after that ignominious defeat, when they were left with one seat in new providence, next time around the plp will be picking plp mp’s to be opposition members!

  • WOW!

    @JT
    JT I guarantee you when Ingraham does step aside, he will not do so for “The Three Stooges”. He will be backing his namesake Minnis.

  • JT

    @WOW!
    You know what’s funny, just a few months ago HAI stated that he wouldn’t run again. Now, he is back in the runnings. It just goes to show how much confidence he has in his own. Even funnier still is the mouths of Tommy T, Zhivargo Laing, and Brent Symmonetter salivating at the thought of leading the FNM, only to have their hopes dashed by Mr Tyrant himself HAI. I know for a fact that all three of these guys want to lead the party in 2012. Will there be an uprising in the FNM, we will see. I think those three want Hubert gone more than anyone else. Besides all of this, unless there is an entire new set of candidates, nothing will happen for them.

  • WOW!

    JT :
    @Russell Johnson
    After I read that HAI will consider running again, I thought the same thing. This administration is more scandal ridden in two years than an entire 5 of the previous, but they are so full of themselves, they cannot see it. It’s hilarious from Monavie to the COP. I want HAI to run again. IF he is this out of touch now, imagine in another few years. I don’t see what the big uproar is about. So he gave a well written speech. Um, someone gets paid to write them, why not do a good job. It’s just rhetoric. It’s what politicians do. Only a fool would believe that after two years of lackluster governance, that HAI is anything but a manipulative, power driven, money-grabbing, self proclaimed leader. The Bahamian people need to realize that under the FNM, only the chosen few do well, while all others suffer. There is no justice in that. It is clear to me now more than it has ever been that HAI is the leader for the rich and well-to-do Bahamians.
    [Reply]

    I read the article and laughed myself. He needs a bigger hint than the one he is getting now? And he has the nerve to point fingers and accuse others of not knowing when it is time to go.

  • JT

    @Russell Johnson
    After I read that HAI will consider running again, I thought the same thing. This administration is more scandal ridden in two years than an entire 5 of the previous, but they are so full of themselves, they cannot see it. It’s hilarious from Monavie to the COP. I want HAI to run again. IF he is this out of touch now, imagine in another few years. I don’t see what the big uproar is about. So he gave a well written speech. Um, someone gets paid to write them, why not do a good job. It’s just rhetoric. It’s what politicians do. Only a fool would believe that after two years of lackluster governance, that HAI is anything but a manipulative, power driven, money-grabbing, self proclaimed leader. The Bahamian people need to realize that under the FNM, only the chosen few do well, while all others suffer. There is no justice in that. It is clear to me now more than it has ever been that HAI is the leader for the rich and well-to-do Bahamians.

  • The Justice of the Supreme Court has spoken and we need closure.The Govt delayed the Courts ruling in respect to Senator Musgrove now they are blinking in respect to the COP,where do they intend to send him?Loud talking will not solve the problem if the Govt respects laws like they claiom then the COP has got to go.Due to inaction by the Govt their scandals are piling up and only they are not noticing.I agree with the PM stay on so that you can be licked again like in 2002 but this time its over for good.

  • WOW!

    media :
    @Thomas Finley
    Well I ain’t ga say he has surpassed Sir Lynden, yet but I’ll say this, after listening to him, I took my FIRE RED shirt down and began pressing. I tell ya the man is convincing. The PLP will have problems if he run in 2012. Christie cannot beat Hubert. The leader of the FNM is just masterful with language and his usage of our creole diction. He almost use WUTLESS again..lol
    BP
    [Reply]

    BP, that’s why you letting Ingraham and the FNM get away with so much rubbish these days hey? Did you notice that in the committee stage when he was pressed, Ingraham basically had to admit that he lied about Justice Isaacs ruling about the Commissioner of Police being appealed. No such action is being taken. Also, the Dough Boy Mayanard was proved to have lied about Carifesta. He said that Caricom decided not to hold it because of the present economic times. This is a blatant lie. When he was asked to table the letter, Caricom actually said it canceled at the REQUEST of the BAHAMAS. They are very upset about us pulling out yet AGAIN.

  • WOW!
  • T Rolle

    We have to accept that we in this country have been dumbed down with bad leadership so much that we are debating about hubert and perry when both of them have failed us. There is no reason that we must be in so much debt and unemployment. We must rid ourselves of both…but we too are as weak and ineffective as they are. Afterall, they came from us

  • Thomas Finley :Ronica7, you guys could not beat Ingraham with a booming economy, with Steve, Lady Russell, and Wendell, and with election day shenanigans. What you think is going to happen with the good guys in charge? The PLP will be wiped out next time. The proof, however will be in the eatin’, to quote our illustrious PM…
    [Reply]

    I must agree with Omar on his comment about you because I don’t think that you think that the Bahamian people are stupid!!

  • @Smiths Hugglesworth
    When ever you hear HI speak, he takes your breath away!! The man is a master politician!! If you don’t know him, you would easily be swung by his sweet talk!! Personally I don’t trust him!! So all the talk that he puts out there don’t move me…

    Just look at the nurses’ stuation. They thought that they could trust him after he postponed their health insurance the first time but look what that got them… They have to fight to get what was promised, what a SHAME!!!

  • ronica7: You continue to believe your propagana machine. I spoke to a young man today who doesn’t often show an interest in politics. He said after hearing Mr. Ingraham speaking, he felt safe for the first time in a long time. He was not talking about crime but about the general welfare of the country. He thinks that we are in the best hands at this time. As he travels about the country for business, he says things have naturally slowed down somewhat and he understands the hardships experienced in the tourist industry but in this depression what else can be expected. The implementation of employment insurance, meager though it is, is a start. The poor will always be with us and they have increased the monies in Social Services to help. They have provided jobs where they can. He also contended that some of our problems can be laid at our own feet. We had it too good for too long. His words. So maybe the rumblings you are hearing, that you say support your position, are coming from your own flock. Well some people will believe anything won’t they!

  • Altec

    Thomas Finley :
    Ronica7, you guys could not beat Ingraham with a booming economy, with Steve, Lady Russell, and Wendell, and with election day shenanigans.
    [Reply]

    Thomas i seem to recall that the FNM had the “election shenanigans” with all them illegal Haitian and Jamaican voting FNM. Right after there victory remember how the Immigration Department gave all the Haitians work permits and residency papers, disguising it as a “clearing up the backlog procedure.”

    Boi, you’ll aint fooling no one….

  • My brother finley, the rumblings in the market, and on the ground does not tell me that! Mr. Ingraham is finished!
    People are catching hell, and they will continue to catch hell right into 2012. The prime minister has no legacy. Thats what the bahamian people are now seeing.

    He has dug a hole of debt so deep for the bahamian people that most persons just want to see the back of him.

  • Thomas Finley

    T Rolle, what would Paul Moss do?

  • Thomas Finley

    Ronica7, you guys could not beat Ingraham with a booming economy, with Steve, Lady Russell, and Wendell, and with election day shenanigans. What you think is going to happen with the good guys in charge? The PLP will be wiped out next time. The proof, however will be in the eatin’, to quote our illustrious PM…

  • T Rolle

    Leadership is clearly an issue. We need a fresh perpective. Paul Moss said today that even though PM Ingraham said the text books have no answer for what is going on in the world, the PM is still doing what the text books say. That is reason enough to not want to see the PM or the opposition leader after the next election

  • My god, another term of Mr. Ingrahams bellicose, and pugnacious ramblings! “gimme a Break”!

    The fnm will get one cut behind in 2012 if they bring Mr. Inngrham back.
    During Mr. Christie’s term as prime minister, i dare you Thomas Finley, to tell me, if you heard the word leadership being bandied about as much, as you hear it now.
    Bahamians have come to the realisation that Mr. Ingraham ‘een’ all he was made to be.

    I will give him credit though: He certaily knows how to manipulate an uninformed electorate! BRING IT ON MR.INGRAHAM!!!

  • Smiths Hugglesworth

    @Objective thought
    I agree, If the truth be told HI grab and keeps the attention of the listener. I listen and watch Bahamian politics very closely and while Mr Christie is better at governing, Mr Ingraham will always defeat him in debates. Mr Christie must tone his words to fit all aspects of Bahamian society.

    I like him but he simply takes too long to arrive at a point. Maybe he needs to befriend some average joes and learn how to hang and what the Bahamian lingua is…

    Maybe he needs a whole new team of peolpe around him than just PROFESSIONALS. Ingraham has a more common appeal like Sir Lynden and Cynthia Mother Pratt. He’ll sit with you, fry fish with you, go fishin with you, drink with you, laugh with you and even cuss you; my friends that’s Bahamian. If the PLP could have some how take the tenacity of Alfred Gray, the wisdom of Perry Christie and the fearlessness of Glenys Hanna Martin, we would have a strong leader.

    Bahamian politics is far exceeding capability to function. People want a personality too. I want the PLP to win the next election but STRONG leadership is paramount.

    Ultimately however, I believe Bahamians will choose wisdom over hypoteticals…

  • Wisdom

    Joe Blow, I need more information, sound like BREAKING NEWS.

  • Heads Up Media: A certain MP is missing in action! 2 notes given to PM yesterday during debate on the budget. MP crossed the briny sea on a fact finding mission. Communication interrupted. Worried wife! Wild Goose chase? Maybe- maybe not! Nuff said!

  • mashup

    Omar Archer Sr. :
    I think Thomas Finley is on crack.
    [Reply]

    As an impartial observer I can actually understand the Ingraham hate because it is to be expected.
    However it would seem that quite a few people on this site are on crack if they honestly think the PLP in its current state can win the next General Election. I hear lots of people blame the moderator of this site for attacking Christie, but only the lost in that party still thinks he has a shot of winning in 2012. Most PLP’s I know want him – and a few other tainted or fossilized members – to really just go away.

    BTW – Kevin McKenzie – you sermonize waaaaaaaaaay too much.

  • Examiner

    media :@ExaminerWell Examiner if i know anyone would be on point it would be you! That’s a DAMN GOOD OBSERVATION. We never thought about that ya know! Why did he danced around that brewing SCANDAL? Cookie Monster NEKO!
    BP/Editor
    [Reply]

    BP, I think a story needs to be done on this. You should put one of your writers on this story. HAI said that if you are caught in the cookie jar, you are fired. Why would a man give up a 390m contract if it was not a deal?.

  • media

    @Examiner
    Well Examiner if i know anyone would be on point it would be you! That’s a DAMN GOOD OBSERVATION. We never thought about that ya know! Why did he danced around that brewing SCANDAL? Cookie Monster NEKO!

    BP/Editor

  • bahangr

    @Thomas Finley
    Calling Mr. Ingraham a liar is unfortunately like calling sugar sweet.. duhhh!!!!

  • bahangr

    @kevin mckenzie

    Mckenzie i agree with you wholeheartedly. But why isn’t this coming from Christie? Why isn’t therea proper analysis of this foolishness conducted and published inevery newspaper?

    Why despite the fact that the PLP as government had all the government records of the foolishness the FNM did as government, wasn’t informationa dn again analysis of the Ingraham record presented to the Bahamian people?

  • Omar Archer Sr.

    I think Thomas Finley is on crack.

  • @kevin mckenzie
    Stop it man.. We aint into the TRUTH, now tell us a good story!!

    That was good though!!

  • @media
    Media you know that I always say that HI is a better politician than PC only because he is good at talking NONSENSE!!! But PC can mash HI up any day as far as debating is concerned!!

    I must agree that HI puts his stuff together so good that they not only grab one’s attention, they even sound true!! HI is easier to listen to than PC too because most times he gets right to the point….

  • Thomas Finley

    The member for Cat Island asked Mr. Ingraham a question about Lands & Surveys that I think that Mr. Ingraham got wrong. Mr Ingraham stated that Surveyor Generals of the past never met the requirements under law to hold that Office. That statemet is factually incorrect: the only requirement is that the Surveyor General be a Licensed Surveyor.

    The Act states that when the act comes into force that everyone who is entitled to be grandfathered in, must do so in within two years of the Act coming into force, hence they must meet the minimum requirement of being academically qualified, or sit a series of exams that someone who is academically qualified would have had to sit and pass. That would have been 1977. The Act also states that where there is no Surveyor General, the Director is supposed to Act, and is indeed required to do so. That part of the Act would make the appointment of Tex Turnquest, and the man who is currently acting, illegal, since neither of them are/were Licensed Surveyors.

    The implications are obvious for any documents under their signature. The Surveyor General is also legally responsible for Crown Lands. If the Law was being followed, none of the recent mess with respect to that Department, would have arisen.

  • Examiner

    media :@Thomas FinleyWell I ain’t ga say he has surpassed Sir Lynden, yet but I’ll say this, after listening to him, I took my FIRE RED shirt down and began pressing. I tell ya the man is convincing. The PLP will have problems if he run in 2012. Christie cannot beat Hubert. The leader of the FNM is just masterful with language and his usage of our creole diction. He almost use WUTLESS again..lol
    BP
    [Reply]

    BP, did you notice that HAI responded to everything Christie said except the Neko Grant contract to his Friend where he got caught with his hands in the cookie Jar?.

  • If this was mr.Ingraham’s first time serving as prime minister he could be forgiven for the nonsense he discussed in his closing budget speech.Did it take mr.Ingraham 12 years and 1 month to realise that government purchased too many vehicles?Has it just occurred to the prime minister that proper audit of government’s spending needed to be done?Boy if it takes the prime minister this long to learn then i am afraid to say we have a MENTALLY CHALLENGED person serving as our head.The same words that mr.Ingraham used to condemn his twin brother,mr.Christie, also apply to him.I will list some examples-1-Mr.Ingraham claimed in 1992 that sir Lynden Pindling was TIEFING Bahamian money when sir Lynden was building the airport in San Salvador for $10 million.Mr.Ingraham said he could build it for $8 million,THE FINAL COST WAS OVER $39 MILLION.Talk about cost over run.2-The Clinic in South Andros mr.Ingraham allowed this building with its medical equipment to rot for 10 years,he REFUSED TO OPEN IT,simply because sir Lynden built it.3-Remember it was mr.Ingraham who said that after conducting intensive talks with BAHAMAR HE WAS ABLE TO GET SOME OF THE LAND BACK.The Albany development was delayed for 1 year because mr.Ingraham DIDNOT WANT THEM TO DIVERT THE ROAD and as a result the government didnot purchased the 300 acres at below market price from the developers.(The deadline was December,2007)4-We haven’t forgotten how the then BATELCO UNION had to throw beer,peanuts and urine on him in order to obtain a reasonable separation package during the then proposed privatisation.5-Ask mr.PERPALL the then head of the air traffic controllers union how mr.Ingraham FIRED many of his members and brought in Defence Force Officers to replaced them,thank GOD general election was near and he lost.Mr.Ingraham BORROWING AND SPENDING MAKES MR. CHRISTIE LOOK LIKE A MISER.At least mr.Ingraham was able to concede that mr.Christie didnot do any TIEFING OF THE MONEY AND IT WAS SPENT ON THE BAHAMIAN PEOPLE.Mr.Ingraham knew that while mr.Christie didnot build any schools,he did build HUNDREDS OF CLASSROOMS,this is mr.Ingraham at his best telling lies by not revealing THE WHOLE TRUTH.Indeed mr.Ingraham’s preaching about mr.Christie’s sins are like a PROSTITUTE CALLING A FAITHFUL WIFE A SLUT!!!

  • media

    @Thomas Finley
    Well I ain’t ga say he has surpassed Sir Lynden, yet but I’ll say this, after listening to him, I took my FIRE RED shirt down and began pressing. I tell ya the man is convincing. The PLP will have problems if he run in 2012. Christie cannot beat Hubert. The leader of the FNM is just masterful with language and his usage of our creole diction. He almost use WUTLESS again..lol

    BP

  • Thomas Finley

    The Right Honourable Hubert Ingraham is a master class of a Politician, and Prime Minister. Bahamas Press had better enjoy him now, for when he goes, voluntarily or not, we will all miss him, and appreciate what we have/had. Ingrahm, is to quote the late great Sir Lynden, indeed Sir Lynden’s most ‘Illustrious Protege’, and in many respects, has surpassed his instructor. Bravo PM!