Hubert Ingraham in error voted NO to the sale of BTC to CWC

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Hubert Ingraham in error voted NO to the sale of BTC to CWC. The PM quickly resinded his vote and said yes. The PM forced Parliament to erupt into loud outbursts as the leader of the government appeared confused in the House.

Who is running papa?

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  1. BP the tape of PAPA voting no is priceless but I no longer see it on this site .Are you able to tell me where I can find it?I am convinced God spoke through Papa so I need to hear the tape again.Many persons are saying Papa was texting on his blackberry but thats untrue as the speaker tried to send Shane Gibson to hell for using his laptop in HOA.Please resend or guie me to where I can find it as my grandchildren who are yet unborn need to see the power of God.

    • Just keep clicking on the past story pages at the bottom of the site and you will find your story somewhere there.

      BP

  2. @ takeover7

    YOU MUST BE “PAPA’S” BROTHER CALLED “DADA”. ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO TELL THE OTHER VOTERS IN YOUR HOUSE WHO TO VOTE FOR?

    YOU REPRESENT EVERYTHING THAT HAS GONE WRONG IN OUR DEMOCRACY. ANYONE WHO CAN VOTE IS AN ADULT – RIGHT. WHAT’S NEXT, ARE YOU GOING TO TELL THEM WHO TO MARRY? IT DOESN’T WORK LIKE THAT ANY MORE “DADA”.

  3. What a sad day but luckily for us the web has the recordings and children unborn will see who the sellouts are.PAPA showed just how two faced he is and can use this as an excuse when questioned by his grandchildren.PAPA see you at the polls where this time the people will win.Vote them out

  4. the example set before the world is a simple one from the authorities in the country. So clearly is that that when anyone gets too much power they become tempted to use it only for themselves and do anything to hold onto it. When you are willing to do anything to hold onto power, that is when you become corrupted.The use of power to impose one’s will on another is an option position alone wrongly affords all too many individuals. Indeed the option to impose on, rather than engage and work with, is, in the hands of most, tantamount to a license to kill. People do, after all, inexplicably lose their jobs; careers do get gently nudged onto the rocks; professional marginalization does occur; first-rate organizational and cultural initiatives can encounter untenable resistance, if they are not obstructed altogether; social and political oppression does occur; individual whim decimates cultures and destroys countries. Now although at least some of the abuses of position with which we are concerned within business, professional and political circles would be attributable to out-and-out malice, many of these abuses, according to the Syndetic Paradigm, perhaps even the majority of these abuses, are attributable to something far less sinister, albeit no less ultimately destructive. For the Syndetic Paradigm, managerial or leadership incompetence, not malice as such, is held to be a far more significant operative factor when it comes to the prevalence of such abuses of position within business, professional and political circles. Power, in other words, is that to which all leadership initiatives necessarily default in the absence of being able to hold and process interpersonal and intrapsychic dynamics in meaning. In the absence of functional meaning, quite simply put, there can be nothing but power. Of course when we add to this the no less alarming fact that most individuals eventually find themselves holding by way of promotion or other circumstances positions of authority—the demands of which exceed their consciousness capabilities to function within meaning rather than power—we are not only given insight into the full extent of this problem, but no less led to the conclusion that psychoanalytical analysis and executive coaching are terribly underutilized. In The Syndetic Paradigm, the problem of power versus meaning is explored by way of the discussion of the dynamics of ego control versus ego strength. So why does power corrupt? It corrupts because it gives license to unconsciousness. It corrupts because it licenses individuals to unilaterally, unreflectively and thus arbitrarily impose their will on others—impose their will without having properly engaged and processed through the Reality at hand. Power inflates the controlling ego and through it the ego is erroneously led to believe it has the power to make people, ideas and even Reality itself disappear without due process. In the big picture nothing is further from the truth. Power corrupts because it gives license to unconsciousness, and in so doing it not only destroys the growth opportunity of the victim of such imposition, but no less the growth opportunity of the victimizer. Failure to engage another in consciousness, not only does the other individual harm, but it no less does serious harm to oneself, for in both cases the precious opportunity to extend consciousness by way of self-organizing nature is altogether lost, corrupted. Most of this was taken from an article written by Bob A, which pens it all so well.

  5. Now that BTC is sold we should get better service from it’s employees. Now on to other things like an increase in minimum wage, the death penalty, addressing crime, immigration and Education. The party that addresses these issues positively and stop pointing fingers will certainly get me and my household’s vote.

  6. BP when did Cable and Wireless ever say that they were going to give Bahamians Cheap rates???? What are these Bahamians talking about?? What rates did C & W promise to the Bahamas???

    • Cable and Wireless never said that, INGRAHAM said that. Them people from C&W was a mum as a doornail!

      BP

  7. @ Whap

    YOU PARTY CRAZIES ARE AT LEAST AMUSING.

    THE FNM HAS NOT ANSWERED SEVERAL KEY QUESTIONS SURROUNDING THIS BTC SALE MATTER. I WILL LIST SEVERAL OF THEM FOR YOU TO ANSWER FOR US. WE MUST ASSUME THAT YOU ARE GUIDED BY “REASON” AND “INFORMATION” IF YOUR POSITION IS TO B E ACCEPTABLE TO OTHER PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU (RIGHT – HA, HA, HA).

    HERE GOES:-

    (1) WHEN DID C&W COME TO THE TABLE?

    WAS IT BEFORE THE FIRST BIDDING SESSWION WAS CLOSED OR WAS IT AFTER THE ENTIRE BIDDING PROCESS WAS CLOSED. YOU ARE HIGHLY INTELLIGENT, SO I DON’T HAVE TO CONVINCE YOU THAT IT WOULD BE INAPPRORIATE FOR C&W TO COME TO THE TABLE AFTER, I REPEAT, “AFTER” THE FORMAL BIDDING PROCESS ENDED. AND IF THERE WAS NOTHING “WRONG” WHY WON’T THE FNM ANSWER THIS QUESTION?

    (2) WHY DIDN’T THE FNM MEMBERS ESPOUSE THE VIRTUES OF THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS OF THIS SALE AND THE TECHNICAL ADVANTAGES OF THIS SALE (THEY CLAIMED THAT SUCH EXIST AT THE RALLY)? THEY SPENT THEIR TIME TALKING ABOUT “BLUE WATERS”. I DIDN’T REALIZE THAT BLUE WATERS AND C&W HAD OFFERED THE SAME AMOUNT FOR THE COMPANY UP TO NOW AND THE DEBATE WAS ABOUT WHICH COMPANY TO GO WITH IN 2011. THAT IS THE ONLY PREMISE UPON WHICH THE COMPARISONS SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE (I WAS UNDER THE FOOLISH NOTION THAT THE DEBATE WAS ABOUT 51% OF THE SALE OF BTC SHARES TO C&W AND NOT TO BLUE WATERS – SILLY ME)?

    THE EXTENT TO WHICH YOUR PARTY (FNM) GOES TO SELL US (THE PUBLIC) ON THEIR DECISISON FOR SELLING BTC WILL REVEAL THEIR DESPERATION AND EXPOSE THE FOLLY – KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN.

    STRAIGHTEN ME OUT – WHAP!

  8. So, BTC is sold. Now what? Will crime come down, will BEC reduce their rates, will the roads gets repaired?. The point is,the FNM has sold a national asset even after the PM stated that URCA was behaving in a way which might indicate a conflict of interest.I have been around long enough to give history lessons to Bahamians. But, Bahamians are not interested in the past, thats why we keep making the same mistakes.But,thats okay;when the time comes to pay the bill for all of the nonsense we have done in the name of politics, and for cheaper telephone minutes to gossip with, we will be the laughing stock of the Caribbean

  9. @Bahamian, the BTC transaction is successfully finalized so just please stop! This decision is one will remembered as a great move by the PM. I do appreciate how Christie was trying to distance himself from decisions that were made by his very own Cabinet, which included the likes of Bradley Roberts who was a previous owner of Nassau Flight, which held a monopoly at the then NIA. Guess he was trying to get his cronies to get the upper hand on BTC. Man these people have to stop! How could some Bahamians still have the nerve to support the PLP when it shows that their decision making is questionable as far as Blue Water was concerned. Additionally, nobody talking bout how the PLP was gonna build that Straw Market for almost twice the price!

    • See the problem with us bahamain is that we to like to look back was the deal made with the PLP no it is now been made by the FNM so what is the problem stop the name and blame game bahamains it is now FNM trun to make decisions not the PLP so let go and why are we so quick to knock down our own people what make us not qualify to own big companies in our country we alway like when strangers come and take us over when we should fight for ourseleves they don’t care about us they only want our money and when things get worst they take our money and run like a bat out of hell and then we stuck with the bill if it PLP or FNM somebody other than the stranger will be blame it time to start working together not apart.

  10. 4g aint free and it aint going to be cheap.
    So, why would anyone care about 4G? If you want to fool a Bahamian just put something in writing talk a little fancy talk and you have them hook line and sinker. Most of us don’t know what is the meaning of the “g” in 4g. Most of us don’t know what is IPV4 or IPV6 or broadband not to mention bandwidth. C&W reminds me of a used car salesman. BP can you simply post C&W data plans and the prices. If they charged you one flat rate for data or they allow you a certian amount of data per month. 4g is not fully implmented in the US. I gurantee their network is not 4g. I read an article and what I found interesting was the fact that 4g is very expensive Who cares?
    So, why would anyone care about 4G? Come on – you can’t fool me – if you’re reading Christian
    Computing, I’m guessing you care a lot about your
    broadband speed. And if you’re in ministry, then I’m
    guessing you are very focused on your budget. 4G
    services promise a 5 fold increase in speed at roughly
    the same price. Today Sprint charges $69.99/month for
    4G+3G (so the service works wherever they have either
    3G or 4G service), while Verizon charges $59.99 for
    3G. But Verizon caps your 3G use at 5GB per month,
    while Sprint allows unlimited 4G use (but caps you at
    5GB per month on their 3G network). Sprint’s Clearwire
    subsidiary is offering unlimited 4G service for
    $49.99 (but apparently without the ability to roam onto
    Sprint’s 3G network). I believe that unlimited is an
    important differentiator for 4G, and one that is hard for
    the carriers to match on 3G because of the significantly
    higher operating costs
    http://www.ccmag.com/2009_12/ccmag2009_12coverstory.pdf

  11. There is a saying: What is in the blood will work out through the skin. Maybe the Prime Minister is not for this bad deal with Cable & Wireless and that is why, he voted NO yesterday until, the shock look on Brent and his other ministers face shamed him into voting Yes.

  12. I’m really puzzled at this debate because with all the conflicts with URCA (headed by C&W former CEO) and the fact that the other bidders didn’t get a chance to bid on the same deal as C&W who was offered 51% while other bidders was offered 49% all speaks to serious legal flaws in the sale. Yet this is able to go through the parliamentary process. This really speaks to serious crimes at the highest levels while poor people can do nothing about it because they can’t afford to pay for the legal battle. BUT this is really wrong. We have become a dictatorship without even realizing it…WOW

    • I gat it.. he was compromized to the extent that he could back away from this dumb @ss deal … Like someone said “time is longer that rpoe”!!

      • @g

        I fully agree your conclusion, G.

        On the subject of Ingraham’s Freudian Slip, I researched the behaviour and post it here for your edification.

        Freudian slip: Definition from Answers.com
        n. A verbal mistake that is thought to reveal a repressed belief, thought, or emotion.

        CONCLUSION:
        The TRUTH is the hardest thing to repress. Bury it and it will resurrect itself in three (3) days!

  13. LIME soon come praise GOD! we gon get cheap minutes n 3G n 4G n iphone n crackberry! Silly Union Terrorist smilin up now. Him likey da kickbacks!

    • M indless

      I gnorance

      C auses

      A mnesia

      By the way, MICA, 3g is already here! Infact I am using my phone to write this message! A mind is a terrible thing to waste! Read something other than the PUNCH it will broaden your horizons! Have a good day!

  14. Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks!! The PM’s vote of ‘no’ was not in error because he knows that the sale of BTC is wrong

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